I use HE to burn superstructures (And some ships have semi penetrate on HE as captian skill) then switch to AP when it's time to critical hit the crap out of the enemy. It's the exact same as with AP; you penetrated the citadel armour with your shell. Humor. Accidentally citadeled a Chapayev twice in my first salvo of my first ever GK game after forgetting to switch to AP. World of Warships - téléchargez et jouez au jeu en ligne multijoueur figurant des bateaux, faites partie de la communauté WoWS EU The ships would follow the philosophy of “Outgun what you can’t outrun and outrun what you can’t outgun” with an armament easily able to deal with enemy cruisers and a speed that would allow them to flee from battleships in general. The farther you are from the target, the harder you need to pray. The only difference is - HE is very simple and only cares for the first piece of armour it hits. Depends on what you're shooting at but for maximum chance to hit the citadel you tend to want to aim for the waterline yes, some cruisers like mogami and atago have massive citadels that are easy to hit as long as they present it. Those aren't the only cases where HE citadels happen but they're the most common. - General rule is to aim at the water line below the gun turrets (front or back doesnt matter), most of the ships have a quite large citadel area there. This. A game about huge boats. What have we done to deserve this, Wargaming? I don't have much experience with the Italian BB line yet, but is there anyone that has with an Italian bb? You can probably SAP cit an Omaha, everything else can. On that part, the citadel side armor is 60 mm thick. Cruisers at their maximum range can penetrate with ''falling fire'' but any turret or piece of the superstructure will block a citadel penetration. The citadel is the area of the ship where vital compartments like the ammunition rack and engine rooms are. Press J to jump to the feed. World of Warships. Thought this was funny as hell when I forgot to switch the first loaded shells on a following game. World of Warships - stáhněte a hrajte bezplatnou online hru pro více hráčů o válečných lodích, staňte se součástí komunity WoWS EU SAP shells like HE have a fixed Penetration value, typically better than HE shells of the same size. Some ships just have basically unarmored citadels. Gunboats. You need to play a total of 10 battles to post in this section. You can't with Cruiser SAP. Thanks for all the input everyone! SAP has a fixed pen value, just like HE so angling (except autobounce) does not matter. SAP can citadel, but it's limited to ships that can be citadeled with HE. Yes. I've tried many times in the Italian cruisers all they way up to T10 and never been able to even on a broadside minotaur. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Allergy Warning: May Contain Traces of Kanmusu. The shells didn't hit the conning tower? The pen on Italian SAP is not enough to citadel a Minotaur. Followers 1. You need to play a total of 20 battles to post in this section. So provided you hit an armour zone that directly connects to the citadel, you will score a citadel hit - provided you have enough HE pen to get through the armour. 13: For maximum effect, hit the enemy citadel! IJN CAs usually has most of the torp bulge protecting the citadel, so you actually missed the bulge and hit the small exposed parts lol. Yes battleships do have citadel plating under their turrets. protip, the rangers hanger counts as 6 mm of armored citadel, shoot into it with anything and you will citadel it. View Entire Discussion (12 Comments) More posts from the WorldOfWarships community. Beta Tester. Share this post. At close ranges maybe 10km or less if you catch a broadside cruiser and hit the citadel but get just 1480 overpen it is because sometimes the citadel armor belt of that cruiser is either too thin to arm the 460mm shell or the fuze time of said shell is so long that at close range velocities it exits through the ship before it has time to arm. A game about huge boats. 1 EasternDragon_2014 Aoba's citadel is smaller but still big but made out of cheese and can be penetrated by DD's relatively reliably and Myoko's is about the same without being penetrable by DD's reliably. Lower-tier carriers are notorious for having weak exposed citadel armour, and the Emerald you listed as an example has an exposed citadel roof towards the rear of only 25mm, meaning anything 155mm and higher (or 120mm if using IFHE) will citadel it with HE. By Err0r404DignityNotFound, September 27, 2016 in General Discussions. If there's multiple layers of armor protecting the citadel, even if they're all thin armor, an HE citadel will never happen because the HE shell will pen, detonate and do damage on the outer layer. I guess I just never looked to see that pen values. With an exposed citadel. Posted by 5 days ago. 1,901 posts. You can see that in port if you hover your cursor over Main Battery. World of Warships: How To Citadel German BBs. AHA!!! With guns. I have all I need to be a far more effective gunner. Wait until she is showing broadside. When shells are … 74 [KIA-T] RadDisconnect. Im curious, has anyone ever hit a citadel with a sap shell? So no, Venezia can't SAP citadel that ship. This is because the server knows where everything is, but doesn't relay that to your computer unless detectibility requirements are met (anti cheat). Finally a chance to answer a question about my favorite game! That is why, unlike the vehicles of World of Tanks, ships in World of Warships are divided into multiple compartments, each with a different value of hit points (HP). Almost nothing at the higher tiers has the citadel right up against the hull like that. Get the latest news and developments here and play for free! Which means anything with a caliber higher than 96mm can HE-citadel a Bogue. For me the hardest ship to citadel is the St. Louis for some reason. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Armor thickness x 6 is how large a shell is needed to pen it with HE. - Japanese cruisers from the Furutaka, pack a mean punh with their high velocity AP. Tier V Genova can SAP Citadel Tier V Russian Cruisers Mikoyan & Kirov because their armor belts are 35mm and 50mm respectively. No problem, yes while technically the citadel would be the command deck in most terms, in the case of WoWs they are using citadel to mean fortified spot. I’ve gotten SAP citadels on ships with exposed citadels that are thin enough for SAP to pen. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the WorldOfWarships community. The citadel does have the T shape of Soviet battleship so starting from the waterline, it goes inside the ship with a spaced armor configuration. What are the game mechanics behind HE resulting in a Citadel hit? At tier VIII. With guns. 5 years ago. I didnt realize it was so low O_O It makes sense now! Just thought it was a luck thing, and I was on the short end. - Germans line does great damage, but they need to be close to be consistent, they are brawlers. No consideration for angle, velocity, drag, fuse timings or anything that AP has to deal with. Or did I miss something somewhere long ago when SAP first appeared in the game that they are in capable of penetrating far enough into the Citadel. Venezia SAP has 55mm of Pen if I remember correctly, pretty sure Mino has more citadel armor. SAP shells are a hybrid of sorts between AP & HE shell characteristics. Note that it's possible to get citadel hits at very long range due to plunging fire. However, Genova's SAP shells cannot Citadel Tier V Cruisers Omaha and Emerald because their armor belts are too thick. Damage is "dealt" to a compartment by subtracting a certain amount of hitpoints. In order to citadel with SAP, the ship you are shooting at has to have A: the citadel all the way up to the outer hull, and B: not have more citadel armor than the SAP has penetration. Share this post. Never submarines, they said. 6,538 battles [KIA-T] RadDisconnect 74 Master Chief Petty Officer; Members; 74 320 posts; 6,538 battles; Report post #9; Posted September 10, 2018. The compartments are as follows: bow end, aft end, citadel, casemate (center part minus the citadel), and the superstructure. Started looking and this is only the second video i have watched about this game, seeking the citadel answer. Below are diagrams showing all US Cruiser and Battleship Citadel locations. Most ships either have enough Belt armour to withstand HE, or they have spaced armour (Tier 4 and 5 Frenchies showcase this perfectly). Is it possible to overpen a citadel? 746 [LYNMF] LawrenceXVIII. Offical in game modelling+offical wiki says that magazine IS NOT considered as citadel for cruisers. Venezia in Tier X shares the same value. Generally, only in mid-lower tiers is there a real chance for Cruiser SAP to Citadel another Cruiser using those shells because as you climb the tiers, Cruiser armor belts get thicker. Even Smolensk in Tier X who has paper thin armor has a 100mm armor belt. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Get the latest news and developments here and play for free! I got quite a few shooting Carriers with USNDD HE and I remember at least one from a Cleveland on an Emerald. World of Warships. Bogue for example eats HE citadels all day because it has no armor at all, just 13-16mm hull plating. Gunboats. The Republique turtleback and space armor means you got to be less than 6 km to hit citadel, I tested it a lot in training room with my Yamato. For ships this means each of the magazines, and the boiler room. World of Warships - free-to-play naval warfare-themed massively multiplayer game from Wargaming. Link to post Share on other sites . You can just jump on your ship go park next to a cruiser parallel and try to citadel that cruiser from front turrets. It is important to remember that Destroyers do not have Citadels.. A ship's Citadel will always be well-armoured, so make sure you're not at too steep of an angle (60-68 degrees, depending on your nation), or … All Discussions ... WoWS is server side.. meaning if you fire into what you see as empty space, you can hit the ship that is there even if you can't technically see it. It will not work. 19 comments in this topic. 14,321 views (649 votes, average: 4.92 out of 5) Loading... How to video to show one way of getting citadels on German battleships. Below is Tier V Genova, 203mm SAP has 54mm Penetration. SAP is basically just HE with more damage and penetration at the cost of bounce angles, so that makes sense. I show what you’re trying to hit in port and then demonstrate it. Those two conditions mean it's mostly low to mid tier cruisers that can be citadeled with SAP. 1.7k. Link to post Share on other sites. However, note that when your torpedoes breach the citadel zones, it might be possible to deal extremely massive damage to your target and kill them in 1-2 torpedo hits. What have we done to deserve this, Wargaming?. Boot Camp Rule No. Destroyers do not have citadels anymore. So provided you hit an armour zone that directly connects to the citadel, you will score a citadel hit - provided you have enough HE pen to get through the armour. Curious what the responses are going to be! Emerald also infamously can be HE-citadeled by everything in its MM spread since there's part of the citadel roof that has only a 16mm deck over it. And Yamato's citadel is not low enough to begin with. They don't its all razzle dazzle to those unaware of them and what they cost. On a battleship. I dont have much experience with the Italian BB line yet, but is there anyone that has with an Italian bb? Just curious as to the mechanics behind it. Ive tried many times in the Italian cruisers all they way up to T10 and never been able to even on a broadside minotaur. Pretty much all T10 cruisers can hit pretty hard with their AP. World of Warships - Asia Language Based Communities ; English Speaking Community ; General Discussions ; Is it possible to overpen a citadel? Never submarines, they said. Lowmein, Thursday at 01:26 AM in General Game Discussion. March 6, 2018 WoWs Videos 04:11. Both Emerald & Omaha have 76mm armor belts. But a few ships have areas where the citadel is "protected" by nothing but hull plating, or by a single layer of armor so flimsy it might as well be hull plating. On the other hand if the enemy ship is angled, you will only able to do penetrating shots. Don't forget to pray to RNGesus. Members. In that same tier, you can SAP Citadel Mikoyan & Kirov. I'm curious, has anyone ever hit a citadel with a sap shell? Battleships can citadel (almost) everything if the angle is right, the Myogi can quite happily citadel a Tier10 Des Moines. Either way, it's kinda nifty knowing you can HE citadel certain targets if you aim right. … 320 posts. What's your ship's SAP Penetration value? It seemed for you, this time it worked out. A 220 mm main belt. For a Cruiser sized SAP shell to Citadel another Cruiser, the target Cruiser's Citadel protection has to be very bad. It's possible, but very unlikely that you can manage to citadel a cruiser in a destroyer - it typically happens when you're firing at a very close range. You have gotten me really excited to go back and play again. It’s more likely in mid and low tiers, since a lot of the exposed citadel ships have thin armor there that your SAP can easily go through - ships like Mikoyan, and Ranger come to mind right away, ships that can already be citadeled with HE (and especially Ranger, which can be citadeled by destroyer HE). By I have been playing for a wile and just did not figure out there was a science to the critical hit. Sign in to follow this . It's here somewhere on the reddit. should have seen the IFHE DEV STRIKE with fuso against emerald. The main belt, which is the citadel is only 220 mm thick. 203mm SAP has 54mm Penetration, Omaha & Emerald have 76mm armor belts. They have 35mm and 50mm armor belts respectively. 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